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until we start making serious changes in education system and i think it's necessary, affirmative action is necessary for inclusion and for diverse environment in the university system. >> i think 'farmtive action has become a crutch that we aren't revisiting education and how we're failing so many of our kids. until we do that maybe we do need it but i think we have failed our kids by not improving education. >> there was a very interesting article in "the atlantic" which is progressive publication talking about how affirmative action was giving higher scores to latino kids and african americans and that they were showing up in school way behind their peers as a result because as you mentioned maybe the education system failed them. then doing very poorly, higher drop out rates, all that sort of thing. what do you think about the position that have article? >> i read the article i thought it was garbage, i think there were a lot of assumptions made that just don't match reality. i mean, i attended university and i think affirmative action enabled me to fully integrate in to the full pro
of access to good, healthy foods. >> reporter: government can advise and educate the public about healthy eating, but ultimately it can't demand people change their eating habits or force supermarkets to locate in poorer neighborhoods. >> maybe you have to do something innovative. maybe you actually have a mobile supermarket, grocery, that comes into a community. so on wednesday night when the bookmobile comes and the community health facility comes on wheels, the grocery comes on wheels as well so people can get access to the food that they need. >> reporter: nat turner says the national discussion about food has to move beyond "food security" -- whether or not the poor have enough food to eat -- to something broader. >> a more important conversation is to talk about food justice where people not only have access to it, but they can afford it, where the food is grown sustainably so it's not full of chemicals and all that kind of stuff. that the money for the food stays in the community, and so moving, bringing it up a notch from food security is bringing it up to food justice, right? >>
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